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		<title>By: Vamsi Krishna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vamsi Krishna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ed &amp; Priscilla,

Thanks for bringing out the book and sharing our experience. As a Business Graduate I feel such books will help us in learning how to face the situations and bring out the leaders within.

Best Wishes,
Vamsi ( PGDBE from WLC-Hyd)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ed &amp; Priscilla,</p>
<p>Thanks for bringing out the book and sharing our experience. As a Business Graduate I feel such books will help us in learning how to face the situations and bring out the leaders within.</p>
<p>Best Wishes,<br />
Vamsi ( PGDBE from WLC-Hyd)</p>
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		<title>By: KG Krishna</title>
		<link>http://ridingthetiger.com/about-2/comment-page-1/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>KG Krishna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Aug 2010 05:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What worries me most is: when such events (like Satyam) happen, and as when &#039;facts&#039; come to light, everything looks connected in hindsight to make perfect &#039;logical&#039; sense to justify its eventual &#039;fate&#039;. It then becomes, apart from learning in retrospective, a wellspring of &#039;stories&#039; for the curious onlookers outside (Enron did happen much before Satyam, why didn&#039;t we learn from it?)

So, my bigger question is: How do we &#039;smell&#039; such potential &#039;tigers&#039; or &#039;tiger-like behaviours&#039; inside a supposedly &#039;healthy&#039; organization and prevent them from &#039;eating&#039; its hapless employees? As an engineer, I feel lackadaisical attitude towards systems and undue and irrational (unscientific) obedience to the powers-be (organizational psychology) contribute to such &#039;Satyam-like tigers&#039; riding high else people could cage them early. Remember the Indian story of Panchatantra where lesser subjects (rabbits, deer) collectively hatched a plot to throw the greedy, powerful and arrogant tiger--the king of the jungle--in a well to protect their community from its evil predator.  

Having said that, I don&#039;t proclaim myself to be pure and idealistic. As one of the loyal employee of Satyam then, I believed in the future progress of the organization while at the same time abhorred its weak systems infrastructure in a series of educative and solution-oriented articles circulated among its Full Life Cycle Leaders. In the light of the then economic adversities and the state of our internal systems, the most we feared then, was losing our profitability and industry rank few notches below-- but, not our face in the public.

Now, as a teacher of Systems Thinking and Real-Time Systems to engineering students, I advise prospective employees and leaders in the organization to recognize that:

a) Everything is connected to everything as a System.  Allow free flow of information (formal). Play silent listener to informal communication which in a connected society cannot be inhibited by organizational powers. Most importantly--&#039;feelings&#039; (which are like unsubstantiated &#039;smoke signals&#039; in the form of &#039;unspoken and boss-may-feel-bad-like&#039; irritations and water-cooler chitchats). Both these sources of information provide valuable insights for continuous improvement and most importantly anticipate potential problems ahead.

b) After all, we are all human beings as individuals. Accept the fact, that here is a little bit of &#039;satyam&#039; in all of us. Systems oriented organizations would account for this fact and smell impending problems much ahead by ACTIVELY LISTENING to &#039;smoke signals&#039; and take PROACTIVE measures to neutralize their ill-effects in the future.

c) Systems should be ABOVE the Individuals. Monitor &#039;exceptions&#039; closely. In a large organization, such exceptions (hijacking by few individuals/leaders without transparency and accountability) would lead to lack of organization-wide credibility in systems and therefore their nonchalant abandon by one and all. 

d) Respect rationality and scientific attitude. Let irrational behaviour of few not cloud your professional judgement (rational thinking) at any cost--even if it creates adversarial relationship in the short-run, or losing your job at worst. In the long-run, you win.

e) Be a Systems Thinker: The higher you are in the leadership role, the greater your influence it would be on the organization (employees). Do not be a siloed leader playing deaf-ear to others/events beyond your assigned sphere-of-influence. Every decision of yours is connected to every other part of the organization (of your colleagues). If you smell something irrational (unscientific or &#039;fishy&#039;) anywhere in the system which is detrimental to the organization-at-large in the long-run, cry foul--loud and clear. If none hears, blow the whistle. We&#039;re happy to know that post Satyam-event, several organizations became serious about &#039;Whistle Blower Policy&#039;. 

Finally, we cannot avoid tigers and cubs. They are part of our natural ecosystem.  Caging one or two bad tigers would not help. There may be several on the prowl. We have to adopt systems that neutralize  bad behaviours of few tigers. 

As we speak, we hear stories of many bad-tigers in the public life too who are squandering tax-payers money by several thousands of crores. It is unfortunate that only an external media could highlight them and, not internal systems.

- KG KRISHNA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What worries me most is: when such events (like Satyam) happen, and as when &#8216;facts&#8217; come to light, everything looks connected in hindsight to make perfect &#8216;logical&#8217; sense to justify its eventual &#8216;fate&#8217;. It then becomes, apart from learning in retrospective, a wellspring of &#8216;stories&#8217; for the curious onlookers outside (Enron did happen much before Satyam, why didn&#8217;t we learn from it?)</p>
<p>So, my bigger question is: How do we &#8216;smell&#8217; such potential &#8216;tigers&#8217; or &#8216;tiger-like behaviours&#8217; inside a supposedly &#8216;healthy&#8217; organization and prevent them from &#8216;eating&#8217; its hapless employees? As an engineer, I feel lackadaisical attitude towards systems and undue and irrational (unscientific) obedience to the powers-be (organizational psychology) contribute to such &#8216;Satyam-like tigers&#8217; riding high else people could cage them early. Remember the Indian story of Panchatantra where lesser subjects (rabbits, deer) collectively hatched a plot to throw the greedy, powerful and arrogant tiger&#8211;the king of the jungle&#8211;in a well to protect their community from its evil predator.  </p>
<p>Having said that, I don&#8217;t proclaim myself to be pure and idealistic. As one of the loyal employee of Satyam then, I believed in the future progress of the organization while at the same time abhorred its weak systems infrastructure in a series of educative and solution-oriented articles circulated among its Full Life Cycle Leaders. In the light of the then economic adversities and the state of our internal systems, the most we feared then, was losing our profitability and industry rank few notches below&#8211; but, not our face in the public.</p>
<p>Now, as a teacher of Systems Thinking and Real-Time Systems to engineering students, I advise prospective employees and leaders in the organization to recognize that:</p>
<p>a) Everything is connected to everything as a System.  Allow free flow of information (formal). Play silent listener to informal communication which in a connected society cannot be inhibited by organizational powers. Most importantly&#8211;&#8217;feelings&#8217; (which are like unsubstantiated &#8216;smoke signals&#8217; in the form of &#8216;unspoken and boss-may-feel-bad-like&#8217; irritations and water-cooler chitchats). Both these sources of information provide valuable insights for continuous improvement and most importantly anticipate potential problems ahead.</p>
<p>b) After all, we are all human beings as individuals. Accept the fact, that here is a little bit of &#8216;satyam&#8217; in all of us. Systems oriented organizations would account for this fact and smell impending problems much ahead by ACTIVELY LISTENING to &#8216;smoke signals&#8217; and take PROACTIVE measures to neutralize their ill-effects in the future.</p>
<p>c) Systems should be ABOVE the Individuals. Monitor &#8216;exceptions&#8217; closely. In a large organization, such exceptions (hijacking by few individuals/leaders without transparency and accountability) would lead to lack of organization-wide credibility in systems and therefore their nonchalant abandon by one and all. </p>
<p>d) Respect rationality and scientific attitude. Let irrational behaviour of few not cloud your professional judgement (rational thinking) at any cost&#8211;even if it creates adversarial relationship in the short-run, or losing your job at worst. In the long-run, you win.</p>
<p>e) Be a Systems Thinker: The higher you are in the leadership role, the greater your influence it would be on the organization (employees). Do not be a siloed leader playing deaf-ear to others/events beyond your assigned sphere-of-influence. Every decision of yours is connected to every other part of the organization (of your colleagues). If you smell something irrational (unscientific or &#8216;fishy&#8217;) anywhere in the system which is detrimental to the organization-at-large in the long-run, cry foul&#8211;loud and clear. If none hears, blow the whistle. We&#8217;re happy to know that post Satyam-event, several organizations became serious about &#8216;Whistle Blower Policy&#8217;. </p>
<p>Finally, we cannot avoid tigers and cubs. They are part of our natural ecosystem.  Caging one or two bad tigers would not help. There may be several on the prowl. We have to adopt systems that neutralize  bad behaviours of few tigers. </p>
<p>As we speak, we hear stories of many bad-tigers in the public life too who are squandering tax-payers money by several thousands of crores. It is unfortunate that only an external media could highlight them and, not internal systems.</p>
<p>- KG KRISHNA</p>
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		<title>By: Kermy Pera</title>
		<link>http://ridingthetiger.com/about-2/comment-page-1/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Kermy Pera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Dear Ed &amp; Priscilla,I do not know whether you recall me as VP-Finance at Satyam ( now Mahindra Satyam). Prior to Satyam I was Director Finance / CFO for Canon India for 5+ years, all the buzz about a growing IT services organisation , prestigious awards, elite board of directors , Corporate governance awards everything lured me into this organisation, 3.5 years prior to the break out of &#8221; Riding the tiger&#8221; news. Until the news broke out had no inkling of any of these. Each one of us in business finance where i belong to streched all out for excellence to win many deals and kept on innovating. It was like our career was soaring quite high when in mid-air the career exploded to pieces and we come crashing down. There were so many well wishers saying do you need any help, some were advising us make the career moves immediately. Each one of us did not know what to do since we had been saddled with loan of housing, we had to put a confident face hiding our personal emotions and run for finding the money in the bank ( driving collection)to pay the first month Salary. Personally would say we four of us ( Ramesh, Murali, VVK and Self) came together and steered it with support of other leaders. Thanks to government which stepped in. Believe me we had the land and property we wanted to pledge and take loan for Satyam- no banker or financier were willing to provide the same in the first 2 days, rather bankers starting lining up to protect their interest. The entry of Government directors and their swift action helped us to ensure that we had the audience of the banks and we were able to gradually steer things together. As finance team we were sandwiched from multiple angles, we had to handle agencies &#8211; multiple, new board, bankers and operations to protect the interest in addition to our team motivation &#8211; many of the team members stood together to play the support role. Beleive me from no where we required to don the hat of compliance and treasury role which we had not handled before in Satyam , build the basic data which we didnot have access to and built all data metrics to enable the sale of Satyam. When the rechristened &#8220;Mahindra Satyam&#8221; was born again then before the new employer we needed to prove ourselves to be pure, trust worthy and of integrity and were only innocent fools. Now is almost a year and half if we look back we have waded through the woods but in the journey one thing is coming out clear personally when i speak to many of my  colleagues which really hurts as a professional but the learning expereince of continous adaptation handlign crisis by the minute has certainly made me more confident to face anything worst. &lt;/i&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Dear Ed &amp; Priscilla,I do not know whether you recall me as VP-Finance at Satyam ( now Mahindra Satyam). Prior to Satyam I was Director Finance / CFO for Canon India for 5+ years, all the buzz about a growing IT services organisation , prestigious awards, elite board of directors , Corporate governance awards everything lured me into this organisation, 3.5 years prior to the break out of &#8221; Riding the tiger&#8221; news. Until the news broke out had no inkling of any of these. Each one of us in business finance where i belong to streched all out for excellence to win many deals and kept on innovating. It was like our career was soaring quite high when in mid-air the career exploded to pieces and we come crashing down. There were so many well wishers saying do you need any help, some were advising us make the career moves immediately. Each one of us did not know what to do since we had been saddled with loan of housing, we had to put a confident face hiding our personal emotions and run for finding the money in the bank ( driving collection)to pay the first month Salary. Personally would say we four of us ( Ramesh, Murali, VVK and Self) came together and steered it with support of other leaders. Thanks to government which stepped in. Believe me we had the land and property we wanted to pledge and take loan for Satyam- no banker or financier were willing to provide the same in the first 2 days, rather bankers starting lining up to protect their interest. The entry of Government directors and their swift action helped us to ensure that we had the audience of the banks and we were able to gradually steer things together. As finance team we were sandwiched from multiple angles, we had to handle agencies &#8211; multiple, new board, bankers and operations to protect the interest in addition to our team motivation &#8211; many of the team members stood together to play the support role. Beleive me from no where we required to don the hat of compliance and treasury role which we had not handled before in Satyam , build the basic data which we didnot have access to and built all data metrics to enable the sale of Satyam. When the rechristened &#8220;Mahindra Satyam&#8221; was born again then before the new employer we needed to prove ourselves to be pure, trust worthy and of integrity and were only innocent fools. Now is almost a year and half if we look back we have waded through the woods but in the journey one thing is coming out clear personally when i speak to many of my  colleagues which really hurts as a professional but the learning expereince of continous adaptation handlign crisis by the minute has certainly made me more confident to face anything worst. </i><br />
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		<title>By: Abhilekh Kalita</title>
		<link>http://ridingthetiger.com/about-2/comment-page-1/#comment-22</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhilekh Kalita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have done a commendable job to bring out this book. Best wishes. Also, thanks for sharing Mr. Subbu G&#039;s experiences with us.

Regards,
Abhilekh (working in Mahindra Satyam as a Test Lead)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have done a commendable job to bring out this book. Best wishes. Also, thanks for sharing Mr. Subbu G&#8217;s experiences with us.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Abhilekh (working in Mahindra Satyam as a Test Lead)</p>
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		<title>By: Webmaster</title>
		<link>http://ridingthetiger.com/about-2/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Webmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 13:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Subbu, 

We thank you for sharing your story with everyone.  This is exactly the essence of Riding the Tiger: Leading Through Learning in Turbulent Times. It is a book that shares how people react, respond, and courageously lead in the most extreme conditions imaginable.  Rebuilding trust, even for the innocent leaders is a daunting task.  You are truly an outstanding leader to have remained so focus on the right path.  Ed &amp; Pris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Subbu, </p>
<p>We thank you for sharing your story with everyone.  This is exactly the essence of Riding the Tiger: Leading Through Learning in Turbulent Times. It is a book that shares how people react, respond, and courageously lead in the most extreme conditions imaginable.  Rebuilding trust, even for the innocent leaders is a daunting task.  You are truly an outstanding leader to have remained so focus on the right path.  Ed &amp; Pris</p>
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		<title>By: subbu_g</title>
		<link>http://ridingthetiger.com/about-2/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 16:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ed and Priscilla,
Advance best wishes to your new book. Am anxious to pick up one from the stands, truly it is those 100+ days when all the leaders stood together to make it happen and make the 50000+ employee on board the titanic - averted from dying despite hitting the iceberg. &quot;The Corporate Titanic - Survived&quot;... as a senior finance professional would look forward to see whether the expereiences we have gone through are captured in the learnings.... Subbu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ed and Priscilla,<br />
Advance best wishes to your new book. Am anxious to pick up one from the stands, truly it is those 100+ days when all the leaders stood together to make it happen and make the 50000+ employee on board the titanic &#8211; averted from dying despite hitting the iceberg. &#8220;The Corporate Titanic &#8211; Survived&#8221;&#8230; as a senior finance professional would look forward to see whether the expereiences we have gone through are captured in the learnings&#8230;. Subbu</p>
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		<title>By: Subbu G</title>
		<link>http://ridingthetiger.com/about-2/comment-page-1/#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Subbu G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 16:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ed &amp; Priscilla,
I do not know whether you recall me as VP-Finance at Satyam ( now Mahindra Satyam). Prior to Satyam I was Director Finance / CFO for Canon India for 5+ years, all the buzz about a growing IT services organisation , prestigious awards, elite board of directors , Corporate governance awards everything lured me into this organisation, 3.5 years prior to the break out of &quot; Riding the tiger&quot; news. Until the news broke out had no inkling of any of these. Each one of us in business finance where i belong to streched all out for excellence to win many deals and kept on innovating. It was like our career was soaring quite high when in mid-air the career exploded to pieces and we come crashing down. There were so many well wishers saying do you need any help, some were advising us make the career moves immediately. Each one of us did not know what to do since we had been saddled with loan of housing, we had to put a confident face hiding our personal emotions and run for finding the money in the bank ( driving collection)to pay the first month Salary. Personally would say we four of us ( Ramesh, Murali, VVK and Self) came together and steered it with support of other leaders. Thanks to government which stepped in. Believe me we had the land and property we wanted to pledge and take loan for Satyam- no banker or financier were willing to provide the same in the first 2 days, rather bankers starting lining up to protect their interest. The entry of Government directors and their swift action helped us to ensure that we had the audience of the banks and we were able to gradually steer things together. As finance team we were sandwiched from multiple angles, we had to handle agencies - multiple, new board, bankers and operations to protect the interest in addition to our team motivation - many of the team members stood together to play the support role. Beleive me from no where we required to don the hat of compliance and treasury role which we had not handled before in Satyam , build the basic data which we didnot have access to and built all data metrics to enable the sale of Satyam. When the rechristened &quot;Mahindra Satyam&quot; was born again then before the new employer we needed to prove ourselves to be pure, trust worthy and of integrity and were only innocent fools. Now is almost a year and half if we look back we have waded through the woods but in the journey one thing is coming out clear personally when i speak to many of my  colleagues which really hurts as a professional but the learning expereince of continous adaptation handlign crisis by the minute has certainly made me more confident to face anything worst. 

The world finds it hard to believe - you are a senior finance professional , you may say you were part of business finance and how come you were not aware of it. Be it a consultant or new employer who wants to hire or anyone finds it difficult to believe it, this incident has surely tarnished professional image in one&#039;s CV and left a hurt feeling. While one would feel confident in one&#039;s inner soul that am right and have strong values and beliefs but public perception of Satyam Finance team is a &quot;Big ?&quot; . We had 50-60% attrition despite all these in Finance function , the middle layer is completed wiped out, we have been handling reskilling and re-training all junior most resources who are graduates and still surviving. I do not know what will change this and we are patiently waiting for it to dawn. But personally and professionally i feel i had been able to stay on to save those 50000+ employees to anchor somehow in their lives........ Subbu</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Ed &amp; Priscilla,<br />
I do not know whether you recall me as VP-Finance at Satyam ( now Mahindra Satyam). Prior to Satyam I was Director Finance / CFO for Canon India for 5+ years, all the buzz about a growing IT services organisation , prestigious awards, elite board of directors , Corporate governance awards everything lured me into this organisation, 3.5 years prior to the break out of &#8221; Riding the tiger&#8221; news. Until the news broke out had no inkling of any of these. Each one of us in business finance where i belong to streched all out for excellence to win many deals and kept on innovating. It was like our career was soaring quite high when in mid-air the career exploded to pieces and we come crashing down. There were so many well wishers saying do you need any help, some were advising us make the career moves immediately. Each one of us did not know what to do since we had been saddled with loan of housing, we had to put a confident face hiding our personal emotions and run for finding the money in the bank ( driving collection)to pay the first month Salary. Personally would say we four of us ( Ramesh, Murali, VVK and Self) came together and steered it with support of other leaders. Thanks to government which stepped in. Believe me we had the land and property we wanted to pledge and take loan for Satyam- no banker or financier were willing to provide the same in the first 2 days, rather bankers starting lining up to protect their interest. The entry of Government directors and their swift action helped us to ensure that we had the audience of the banks and we were able to gradually steer things together. As finance team we were sandwiched from multiple angles, we had to handle agencies &#8211; multiple, new board, bankers and operations to protect the interest in addition to our team motivation &#8211; many of the team members stood together to play the support role. Beleive me from no where we required to don the hat of compliance and treasury role which we had not handled before in Satyam , build the basic data which we didnot have access to and built all data metrics to enable the sale of Satyam. When the rechristened &#8220;Mahindra Satyam&#8221; was born again then before the new employer we needed to prove ourselves to be pure, trust worthy and of integrity and were only innocent fools. Now is almost a year and half if we look back we have waded through the woods but in the journey one thing is coming out clear personally when i speak to many of my  colleagues which really hurts as a professional but the learning expereince of continous adaptation handlign crisis by the minute has certainly made me more confident to face anything worst. </p>
<p>The world finds it hard to believe &#8211; you are a senior finance professional , you may say you were part of business finance and how come you were not aware of it. Be it a consultant or new employer who wants to hire or anyone finds it difficult to believe it, this incident has surely tarnished professional image in one&#8217;s CV and left a hurt feeling. While one would feel confident in one&#8217;s inner soul that am right and have strong values and beliefs but public perception of Satyam Finance team is a &#8220;Big ?&#8221; . We had 50-60% attrition despite all these in Finance function , the middle layer is completed wiped out, we have been handling reskilling and re-training all junior most resources who are graduates and still surviving. I do not know what will change this and we are patiently waiting for it to dawn. But personally and professionally i feel i had been able to stay on to save those 50000+ employees to anchor somehow in their lives&#8230;&#8230;.. Subbu</p>
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